tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6168620747792092240.post5545578101272498390..comments2024-03-27T15:09:59.039-06:00Comments on Wasatch Weather Weenies: New Perspectives on Lake EffectJim Shttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15799757451626876963noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6168620747792092240.post-85565887235694451412012-02-08T10:46:51.221-07:002012-02-08T10:46:51.221-07:00Thanks, Jim. This is exactly the sort of thing th...Thanks, Jim. This is exactly the sort of thing that is applicable to our operation at the DOT. Another excellent example of bridging the research-operations gap.LPJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08276657035261647161noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6168620747792092240.post-52496598046184516772012-02-07T18:25:11.873-07:002012-02-07T18:25:11.873-07:00Great post! I like the science-made-relevant aspe...Great post! I like the science-made-relevant aspect...Andyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05688508224694693048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6168620747792092240.post-20767522574027066372012-02-07T15:31:08.227-07:002012-02-07T15:31:08.227-07:00Maybe something early next week. Too much spread ...Maybe something early next week. Too much spread amongst the various model forecasts, however, to get excited. Give it a couple of days and we'll see how things look.Jim Shttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15799757451626876963noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6168620747792092240.post-72942392407812708902012-02-07T15:23:59.790-07:002012-02-07T15:23:59.790-07:00Any signs of the storm door opening in the medium ...Any signs of the storm door opening in the medium range?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6168620747792092240.post-54764153745937920612012-02-07T14:11:55.392-07:002012-02-07T14:11:55.392-07:00WIth regards to wind speed, things work a bit diff...WIth regards to wind speed, things work a bit differently here. Strong wind events in the Great Lakes can produce multiple narrow snowbands that are aligned along the wind and separated by cloud free zones. I can't recall ever seeing such an event on the Great Salt Lake. Instead, stronger winds show some *tendency* to produce isolated bands here (rather than multiple bands). This is discussed in the paper, although admittedly in a techy fashion.<br /><br />With regards to the spring maximum, I don't know if this has been documented elsewhere. It could be very unique to the Great Salt Lake. It is true that the shallow (mean depth 3 meters) nature of the lake helps it to warm fast, but the hypersalinity also means that the lake doesn't freeze. Few inland water bodies have such characteristics.<br /><br />The fall maximum for the GSL is probably a bit earlier than over the Great Lakes. Boonville, NY, for example, gets fairly similar amounts of precipitation from Nov-Jan. Similarly, on Hokkaido Island (Japan), the peak is in Jan. The shallowness of the GSL probably works against it in this regard.Jim Shttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15799757451626876963noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6168620747792092240.post-35590332811404361322012-02-07T13:59:15.509-07:002012-02-07T13:59:15.509-07:00The fall maximum is probably pretty universal in r...The fall maximum is probably pretty universal in regard to lake effect, but I suspect the spring maximum is fairly unique to the GSL... do you know if this is the case? I think a lot of it has to do with how shallow the lake is, allowing it to warm dramatically during even brief periods of warm/sunny spring weather. Plus the related fact that our ridge vs. trough temperature variance is so large here in the spring.Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02814313368731066590noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6168620747792092240.post-51639020862474357632012-02-07T13:55:02.962-07:002012-02-07T13:55:02.962-07:00how much does wind speed, if at all, play into suc...how much does wind speed, if at all, play into such events? I am from NE Ohio and I remember growing up that it was always a fairly nice day but windy when we would get lake effect squalls. In between squalls would be perfectly blue skies too.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com